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Improving Lives Through Employment and Education
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So, why don't I kick off with a question, Debbie. So, you know, IPS is really a wonderful evidence-based intervention, but I'm guessing that many of the clinicians and attendees today may not have an IPS program available at their organization. I'm wondering how you think about the principles that you talked about with IPS and how those can be applied to programs or to organizations that don't actually have formal IPS programs available. So, say, for a typical clinician listening in, what are some steps that they can take to put some of those principles in place even if they don't have a formal program available? Right, sure. I think, you know, giving that hope and just setting up the discussions about work in school in people's lives and what that might look like and what experiences have they had in their past. You know, if someone is on Social Security, it would be helpful to get some benefits counseling, which they may not have in their agency or near their practice, but you can always contact vocational rehabilitation about that. We also, you know, not that therapists want to become vocational counselors, but we have a booklet on our website. It's in our library, document library. I believe it's under program tools, but it's called Obtaining Employment. We help to put that together with people from Pat Deegan's shop, and it's for people who might do this a little bit more independently or with another counselor. So that would be an option, too, but I think that, you know, you can look and see if there might be opportunities to refer someone to one of these programs, but if not, you know, I just think that talking to people and giving them some hope about these possibilities is important and maybe looking at that manual and the clinician could, practitioner could go through that with the individual and see if they might be able to do some of the steps on there together. So, you know, putting together a brief resume, practicing some interviewing questions. You know, the thing about employment services, it's pretty practical, and similarly with education, too. Now if someone's needing intensive support, that would definitely be harder, but I think that there is a need for more of these services to be available to people in both the public sector and in the private sector, because we know people can work, grow, and learn and should have the opportunity to. Thanks. That's great. Maybe one more just brief question, because a couple of people I'm seeing have raised it, which is about fear of loss of benefits. Is that something? How do you think about that with IPS or employment in compliance with SMI? Yeah, so it's a very common fear, but the reality is if you get good benefits counseling, the person almost 99% of the time is going to come out ahead if they have information. Now there are some things like, you know, with housing benefits that, you know, the amount you have to pay goes up as you work more, and that's a problem. But I think that these work incentive counselors know the details of this information, and this information is always changing, and it's complicated, and so it's best not to make the assumption that people are going to be worse off if they go to work and that they are trying to, you know, make ways that people can get back on benefits quickly if they lose them and then the work situation doesn't work out.
Video Summary
In the video, a question is asked about how to apply the principles of Individual Placement and Support (IPS) to organizations that don't have formal IPS programs. The speaker suggests steps such as discussing work and school experiences with individuals, seeking benefits counseling, referring to resources like a booklet on obtaining employment, and offering practical support like resume building and interview practice. The importance of addressing the fear of loss of benefits is also mentioned, emphasizing that good benefits counseling can help individuals come out ahead and that work incentive counselors have detailed information to navigate the complexities of benefits. No credits mentioned.
Keywords
Individual Placement and Support
IPS principles application
Benefits counseling
Employment resources
Work incentive counselors
Funding for SMI Adviser was made possible by Grant No. SM080818 from SAMHSA of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). The contents are those of the author(s) and do not necessarily represent the official views of, nor an endorsement by, SAMHSA/HHS or the U.S. Government.
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